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[admin]

As was decided on Luke Mitchell's main thread, this one exists purely for questions which have been asked there but as yet have not been answered for whatever reason. This is to avoid the need to repeat asking the same thing several times and allow discussion to continue whilst at the same time ensure that questions which may further debate and encourage opinions of others to be expressed do not get left behind and forgotten.

When anything that has been asked here is answered, the question will be quoted in a post on the main thread with the answer below. Only one or 2 questions will be answered at any one time to ensure that the ongoing discussion is not adversely interrupted. The posted question will then be deleted from this thread leaving only those still pending.

[Sandra Lean]

As far as I have been able to ascertain, no drugs were found at the scene. The toxicology reports showed that both Luke and Jodi had smoked cannabis, but to a fairly minor level - I will post the actual results next week.

The point here, of course, is that the prosecution insinuated that it was "massive" cannabis use which had led to Luke being "psychologically affected" by it - even Nimmo Smith referred to this as a possible explanation for what Luke had supposedly done.

But the evidence - cold, hard, factual evidence showed that this was not the case, so what was Nimmo Smith doing? He is supposed to view the evidence impartially.

[gordo30]

Im sure this question can be easily answered and i have attempted to find the answer myself but who and when did the identification of the body and clothes take place.

[gordo30]

Thx John but it was actully the official identification i was looking for but i should have made the clear.

[Sandra Lean]

Official identification was on the afternoon of July 1st, before the post mortem at 3pm. Will double check who did the identification - I'm pretty sure I know, but will make absolutely first.

[Sandra Lean]

The 10.44 call was made to Alice Walker's landline, outsider. There was some confusion over whether it was Janine or Kelly who answered it (the statements eventually seem to show that it was Janine who answered, and Kelly "knew from ehr voice" that something was wrong, apparently,) so I suspect this has just got muddled up in the reporting.

[outsider]

The cuts on Jodi's right arm.
Where on her arm?  Were they straight and parallel?
Oddly were they possibly like Nazi  SS insiginia?

[Sandra Lean]

The cuts on Jodi's arm were straight, but not parrallel, outsider. One in particular was a very serious injury indeed and definitely inflicted in life. The other was still horrendous, but not as serious as the first.

They were positioned about halfway up the forearm, one to the outer (or "top") part of the arm the other more "side on" which would certainly support the suggestion that they were defence wounds.

[outsider]

I was  asking about the right arm Sandra...the one which supposedly was cut in the mutilation after death. 
In other posts you refer to defence wounds as being on the left arm.
Were there any cuts in the hoodie sleeves to match the defense wounds or does it seem that the hoodie had been removed before the defence cuts were made?

[Sandra Lean]

Beg your pardon, outsider!! Didn't read it properly!

As far as I have seen, there is no mention of matching cuts in the sleeve of the hoodie that would correspond with the defence wounds, but there are still some documents to come, so there may be some reference in the remaining papers. I would have expected those to be in the same reports as the cuts and tears in the T shirt and jeans, but there is nothing at all about cuts in the sleeves of the hoodie - all that is mentioned is the fact that the hood had been pulled out of shape and the drawstring was missing. In fact, as I think about it, there's mention of cuts, tears and pulls in everything but the hoodie. How odd!

[outsider]

Sandra : can you confirm the 10.53pm and 11.03 pm phone calls ....wether they were to mobiles or landline?thanx.

ps and also the cuts on the right arm that were part of the post death mutilation.

[Sandra Lean]

Sorry about the delay, outsider. I wasn't online until late afternoon, and have had to check through the documents before responding.

The two calls to which you refer here were to AW's landline.

It was suggested by Turnbull that the cuts to the right arm were post mortem mutilations, but the evidence shows that, in fact, there was some vital reaction, indicating that these cuts were inflicted very close to, or at the actual, time of death. Prof Bussuttil agreed that they were possibly Jodi's last defensive act, throwing up her right arm to defend herself from the fatal blow (as her left arm had, by then, suffered the terrible injury referred to earlier.) Derek Pounder's report refers to the injuries on both arms as defensive injuries.

From memory, the injuries to the right arm were lower down the arm than those on the left side, nearer to the wrist, but with no "rhyme or reason," or apparently deliberate placement.

[gordo30]

Im just doing this to keep these questions at the top of the board so again no pressure to follow up on them Sandra as i know i must sound like one hell of a nag

1. Is there any reference to the height and age of the man seen by AB at the entrance to the Easthouse's end of the RD path?

2. Who and when did the officail identification take place and were the clothes found at the scene identified at the same time?

3.When was it first established that the t-shirt Jodie was wearing that night had belonged to her sister and who was it that first gave up this information?

[Sandra Lean]

1. Is there any reference to the height and age of the man seen by AB at the entrance to the Easthouse's end of the RD path

5'7 - 5'10, aged late teens to early twenties.

[outsider]

The white socks that were half on Jodi's feet.
Are there any details of bloodstaining or soil deposits on them.