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[admin]

The purpose of this topic is to set aside a place for misleading information posted as if fact elsewhere so that it can be publicly corrected without interrupting the main thread. I am trying to make it as easy as possible for anyone with a genuine interest in seeing justice prevail to find this information so will keep updating this post to create and index of corrections.

If you see any factually incorrect posts or misleading information, please post the Site name, post/thread topic if applicable and details of the incorrect information along with the factually correct version. I will find a way to list the posts alphabetically and link to them from this post. I would suggest one post per false/misleading comment to make it easier to find.

This will also have the effect of highlighting exactly where this type of damaging remarks and false information is being projected into the public domain now, we all know where it started originally.

[corinne mitchell]

Sorry, but just another wee thing about new forum. Devilsadvocate stated he thinks Luke has a mental illness. Careful Mr advocate, again you have not checked FACTS. Luke may want to sue you. He has in actual fact a certificate to say he is of sound mind. It is routine procedure to find out about "the dude in the docks" state of mind..........Can YOU prove you are of sound mind with no mental health issues..........Luke CAN.

[Sandra Lean]

Claims that M/B.B "accompanied" AB to the police station to give her statement, made on WKJJ

This claim was posted repeatedly here (by John or shirley, I think - don't have time to trawl through and check) and was repeatedly corrected.

AB gave her statements at home. M/B.B was in her home when she gave the early statements

[Sandra Lean]

None of my posts regarding the above has ever been altered or deleted, I did not ever claim that M/B.B accompanied AB to the police station, and I have no reason to distance myself from any of my posts in this regard as everything I posted came from the original documents.

I won't be drawn any further on this matter- if anyone wants to check (and has the time on their hands) they can check through the 300+ pages here - it's all there in black and white.

[corinne mitchell]

I can't tell you how infuriating it is to read posts by people claiming to know more about my family than I do.These people are no better than the novelists claiming to be journalists who claim they know the "facts" when they know nothing of the sort.

Ziggy wrote " Shane used to drive his mothers 4X4........" Em.........No!...he didn't. We bought Shane his first car for his 17th birthday ( all tied up in a red bow, we have the photos) which I gave him lessons in, he got a block of lessons in an instructors car, passed his test and drove his own car.

" Luke used to drive his mothers 4X4 in the car park and waste ground at Scott's Caravans"......Ziggy might want to share with me the whereabouts of this "car park"?? I don't have a car park here! Luke did drive my car here which is perfectly legal as it is private ground. I did so, when I was 15! Why are they describing something that doesn't exist. Please, anyone feel free to inspect..........and when you find the "car park"......do point it out to me!!!

Again, I ask the question, why have they called that new forum "Who killed Jodi Jones" Why not call it.................."Lets post rubbish about Corinne, Sandra and Billy" because basically, that's all they do!
John Lamberton and your merry men, speculation, theories, opinions and rumours............don't a forum make!!!

[Ellie Lean]

Having previously refrained from involving myself in these forum sites, I do read posts and keep up to date whenever I can, and I have recently discovered that a certain few people have a very misguided idea of what my relationship with my mother is like. I am aware that this is not actually anything to do with wrongful convictions although given what my mother does I feel this is still relevant. To the complete strangers on GI, how on earth could you possibly know how much time my mother spends with me? Unless you're some sort of creepy lying stalker, you could not possibly. I live with her, I see her every day and we are not just 'mother and daughter', we're friends, I care a great deal about her and I know for a fact she cares about me. She is passionate about helping people that have been wrongly accused or convicted, and for some reason, many jaded people cannot see that she does this for comeletely altruistic reasons. What could she be gaining from this personally? She's been doing it for more than 7 years and never recieved a penny for it, people have trashed her name with absolutely no evidence to back up their claims, and people that don't even know her are making assumptions about her family life. These people need to take a good look at what on earth they're doing involving themselves on a site like this if they are missing the main cause completely.
Get a grip! If you can't all work together for the cause then what are you doing? My Mother and I are friends, we spend plenty of time chatting to each other about all sorts of things, not just 'The Mitchell Case'.
I also wish to point out that I do not consider myself 'damaged' by anything she has done, I am a happy 18 year old that does normal 18 year old things, there's bugger all wrong with me! If anything I'm inspired by her, not bloody damaged!
Unless you know her personally and can prove what your saying, Keep your ridiculous opinions to yourself and get back to the main point. Morons.
=]
I also wanted to mention, those of you who are managing to stick to the point are an inspiration, and people should be following your examples!

[Colin Bowman]

Ellie, you're the inspiration. Thankfully there are a lot of you coming through in your generation. Good on you.

colin

[gordo30]

I feel so sad that you felt Ellie that you had to come on here and post this, the relationship you have with your parents and siblings is one of the most personal things for anyone and although I understand and respect your need in the face of everything that occurs on these forums I just feel saddened that you had to.
Sandra has been the epitome of everything that is right within the world of MoJ and many times that puts her at the forfront of abuse because so little is right with many case's, she has always handled herself with dignity,tanacity and more to the point gracefulness when dealing with all these case's.

When people are doing things right and getting things done then it makes all of those who would seek to try and emulate but who fall short to try and level things by bringing everyone down to their level, many just see the need to abuse to simply fit in with one camp or another but like you said why not work together to try and get things fixed once and for all. The problem with that is that so many involved with MoJ are Moj victims themselves who can harbour malice that their case's have not achieved the necessary exposure or the correct outcome. Then we have many people's inflated ego's to deal with as well as the more sinister aspects of trying to misinform and mislead people seeking exposure for their case's because it fits with a persons personal agenda's.

It complicated and sometimes its a challenge that keeps all those who truly have the desire to right something that went wrong to carry on doing what they do and that's exactly where Sandra Lean fits in and should be admired.
Regards Gordon.

[Sandra Lean]

The Path

It has been claimed that I have tried to portray the path as a "busy walkway." I have often quoted the police line that it was "popular with walkers and dog walkers" and have commented that on the night of Jodi's murder, it was like Piccadilly circus, so many people were there - GD, JF, LK, DD, etc.

But I have also made clear on many occasions that it was a secluded path, and can't be easily seen from the roads.

I have walked the path on several occasions, and have met other people there on almost every occasion. Not "lots of people" - the first time, I met two men in "camoflage" type gear who had a large dog with them, another time I came across a small bunch of teenagers, another time it was an old tramp, and so on. Since Jodi's murder, I have been on the path/in the woods on 7 occasions that I can "prove" (because I had other people with me) and a further five that I cannot "prove" because I was alone.

So, once again, for the record, I have not ever stated that the path was a "busy walkway" nor even tried to give that impression - it is a quiet, secluded path which the police said was "popular" with walkers and dog walkers, and which I said seemed particularly busy the night Jodi was killed.

BTW, thanks to Colin and Gordo for your comments.

EDIT: I have never, ever said I would "welcome" my girls walking this path.

[corinne mitchell]

Sorry, again......FACT time again.....as Mr Lamberton is at it .............again.

Luke wanted to take the stand. Findlay said no.Luke had no choice in the matter......end of. When you are 15, just turned 16 and say somethin g to a man of Findlays age and experience......he then bangs his fist on the table and shouts.....It's my way or no way.......sonny........what bloody " choice" do you have?? NONE!

Reel your head in Lamberton.........you have no idea what you are talking about.

[corinne mitchell]

OMG. For the first time I have read " Background- Jodi Jones and Luke Mitchell. over on WKJJ.

I have never read so many downright lies in one short post in all my life. I will be printing it out and passing it to Lukes lawyers.
Lamberton, check the FACTS before you go to print......It can land you in serious trouble otherwise.Reading tabloids do not give you the facts. You have no proof for any of the drivvle you print. Telling lies about people you do not know and not bothering to find out the facts gives your forum no credit whatsoever.

[outsider]

a newspaper article extract that is being posted bout without proper criticism  is this one

that is very misleading
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Keith Campbell, 14, of Woodburn, Dalkeith, told the court he did not smoke cannabis but commented that Mitchell carried a knife "everywhere", even at school.

He was shown a leather pouch which would allow a knife to be carried on a belt and said he had seen Mitchell with the pouch.

He was also shown photos of a Swiss Army-type knife, a lock-knife, which Mitchell was said to use to cut up cannabis, and another thin-bladed penknife - all of which he linked to Mitchell
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It seems keith campbell was an impressionable little boy with tall tales to tell.

"He was shown a leather pouch which would allow a knife to be carried on a belt and said he had seen Mitchell with the pouch."

fact;  only one pouch attributed to Luke Mitchell was found and this was the one purchased in december 2003.  No other pouches were found.
This raises the question as to what time period was  Keith Bennet speaking of...if it was the same pouch then it would have to be several months after the murder so it is irrelevant.  With no dates given the article is misleading.

If Keith Bennets claim is that it was before the murder then what is said cannot be held to be true.

"said he had seen Mitchell with the pouch"
"the pouch" for keith to say what is claimed "the pouch" in question would have to be the pouch taken from luke mitchells possession. No other pouch would do...it is reported specifically. If it was not the actual pouch bought in december 2003 then Keith Campbell is lying.

[corinne mitchell]

One other thing to add (if I don't, Mr Lamberton will pick it up)................

I will make this as brief as possible.

This has been gone into way back but with everything, Mr. Lamberton doesn't bother to read any of the facts in Lukes case, so apologies for any repetition.

Luke did NOT hold a knife to a girls throat and demand sex. This has been established as complete fabrication.

Luke was at his fathers as he usually was at weekends. Also staying was his fathers girlfriends niece and her friend.They all stayed in the one room, nothing sinister they were 12 and 13 year olds having a sleepover....and before I get shouts of WHAT?.....it is very common.
The room was next to his fathers bedroom and they heard nothing untoward.
In the morning, they all had breakfast together during bouts of giggles and laughter. Nothing was said to her aunt or Lukes dad about any such attack. After breakfast, the girls left only to inform Luke that they would return in the afternoon, which they did and normal teenage mucking about resumed.

Now, it has to be asked, if Luke had attacked this girl, why didn't she say something to her aunt either that night or at breakfast? Why was she happy to sit and giggle at breakfast with the lad who had threatened her with a knife.....why? when returning home after breakfast did she not tell her mum or dad,......why did she return to muck about with Luke quite happily in the afternoon.

She only came out with this after Luke was convicted, she had been grounded and fallen out with her mother. .......Her own family......shot her "story" down in flames,she was a known attention seeker, and no charges were brought on Luke.......because it just didn't happen.



"trying to throttle another pupil"...............I was not informed by the school of this. If it had happened I certainly would have been.Good God! I got a call from the school when he appeared with no regulation school sweatshirt on!!!!

"Educational psychologist!................I was not informed by the school of this. They have to inform parents if this is going to happen.

[corinne mitchell]

Over on WKJJ Mr Lamberton has pointed out that his "background" post was taken directly from a tabloid............................and that, your honour...is the case for the defence!!!!!!!!!

[Sandra Lean]

Today, at 2.18pm on the GI site, sally posted the following:

"Saw Sandra today funnily enough-looked like a lady with much to ponder!"

Why would sally tell such a stupid lie? I have not been out of the house since 4.15pm yesterday, when I walked to the little corner shop. The last time I was out of the house before that was Tuesday morning.

It would not be possible for anyone to have seen me today unless they were inside my house. sally's credibility is now in the toilet.