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[openmind]

Can anyone tell me what Leonardo da Vinci has got to do with Robert Greens?

Neighbour Raymond Haywood, 34, shouted through a loudhailer: “This is a public announcement. Get the Da Vinci beast out. We don’t want to live in fear.”

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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/02/04/da-vinci-rapist-s-uncle-says-he-should-have-been-executed-as-neighbours-step-up-protests-86908-23734782/

If you shout through a loudhailer, isn't it by definition a public announcement? Does reading the DR cause brain damage?

[nugnug]

ask wichfinder

[HaveHope]

Can anyone tell me what Leonardo da Vinci has got to do with Robert Greens?

Neighbour Raymond Haywood, 34, shouted through a loudhailer: “This is a public announcement. Get the Da Vinci beast out. We don’t want to live in fear.”

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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/02/04/da-vinci-rapist-s-uncle-says-he-should-have-been-executed-as-neighbours-step-up-protests-86908-23734782/

If you shout through a loudhailer, isn't it by definition a public announcement? Does reading the DR cause brain damage?

The monster pounced as the girl was walking to a friend’s house and raped her near Rosslyn Chapel in Midlothian – made famous by Da Vinci Code author Dan Brown.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/01/28/da-vinci-rapist-robert-greens-released-from-jail-in-luxury-mercedes-with-police-minders-86908-23723598/

[openmind]

I know but... that's ridiculous. Next thing they'll be organising pickets of art collections.

[nugnug]

dont give them ideas remember they read this forum

[HaveHope]

I know but... that's ridiculous. Next thing they'll be organising pickets of art collections.

Yes Leonardo Davinci and Robert Greens in the same sentence is ridiculous.

The DR and ridiculous in the same sentence, is not.

[admin]

I wonder if this bit will feature in the "correct errors or publish clarification" section?

A handful of police kept a discreet presence as the noisy group of protesters waved placards and chanted.

I don't know about anyone else, but I see hi-vis jackets and chequered hats in the photo, hardly discreet is it?

"We would like to clarify for our readers, that hi-vis jackets in no way constitutes being discreet or in any way resembles a covert operation."

[nugnug]

can you wear a hi vis jacket discretely.

[Sandra Lean]

You guys have really made me laugh today 

Openmind said

If you shout through a loudhailer, isn't it by definition a public announcement?

- the speaker is taking his/her cue from those vastly educated police officers and politicians who begin their addresses via loudspeaker with exactly the same words; "This is a public announcement!" - You don't say  I'm always so glad when they tell me that - need to know basis, and all that.

Now, those discreet hi-viz jackets and chequered hats, that's a cunning plot to divert attention from the big vans with blue lights and POLICE emblazoned all over them.

Good to see wichfinder is over there keeping them all enlightened with his usual brand of reason and common sense!

[Sandra Lean]

On a more serious note, though, the innocent guys in prison can't get parole or progress through the system because, by refusing to take offender courses, the are deemed not to have "demonstrated an acceptable reduction in their risk of re-offening."

Which means this guy must (apparently) have done so. But if that is the case, why the need for all the supervision, etc, after release? Surely that, in itself, states pretty clearly that he is still a risk - so what is he doing out at all? The whole point of the parole system is supposed to be that, having "addressed" their offending behaviour, and reduced their risk of re-offending to an acceptable level, prisoners are gradually rehabilitated in stages (no such niceties for the innocent, who are unceremoniously dumped at the gates, but that's another matter) - firstly, there are supervised outings from prison, graduating up to periods of leave, etc, and on to full release.

This guy must, then, have been having outings, leave, etc prior to his release. Were they supervised? Where did he go, how long was he gone, who was with him? He wasn't, by any remote possibility, allowed to catch buses, by himself, in the Mayfield area, was he? No, surely not - must just be coincidence.

[openmind]

He wasn't, by any remote possibility, allowed to catch buses, by himself, in the Mayfield area, was he? No, surely not - must just be coincidence.

Remember, he's got an identical twin brother. I hope he doesn't live in the area though, poor man.

[admin]

That's true, and don't forget the local resident who comments in the article that he looks like him. So that's at least 3 people, looking broadly similar, all put at great risk as a direct result of how his release has been handled and publicised. Two of which, so far as I know, haven't done anything but are just as likely to be lynched as Robert Greens himself and I hardly think any of them shouting "I'm not Robert, I'm just some dude that looks like him." will prevent them getting their head caved in should such a mistaken identity happen.

I dare say there's more than three at risk in reality, mistaken identities happen all the time but that can't really be put down to the press, I'm quite sure the authorities could have managed the situation far, far better in a way that didn't endanger not only him but a great many other people too.

[HaveHope]

Still waiting on the errors to be corrected regarding the Luke Mitchell articles 

I'm sure readers would be more interested in reading about that than reading whether it was Neil Dudgeon or John Nettles that was starring in Midsomer Murders on Wednesday.

Feb 10 2012

AT the Daily Record, we do our best to correct errors or publish clarifications as soon as possible. Our journalists adhere to the Editors' Code of Practice, which sets the benchmark for standards.

In our TV listings on Wednesday, February 1, we said STV would be screening a new episode of Midsomer Murders starring Neil Dudgeon when it was a repeat starring John Nettles. On the back page of Saturday's Record, we said Hearts were to play Kilmarnock in the Scottish Cup that day. Hearts played St Johnstone on Sunday.

In Tuesday's sports section, we referred to Pakistan cricketer Umar Gul as a spin bowler when he is in fact a fast bowler.

[nugnug]

there not going to correct those errors i mean they knew they were errors when they wrote them

[Sandra Lean]

Which, of course, means they weren't errors, they were deliberate lies.

So now we have the truth about "For the Record" - we will correct errors, but will happily continue to knowingly print bullsh*t.